Gerrit Rosa
(Abt 1510-Abt 1560)
Unknown
Goertzen Rosa
(Abt 1531-Abt 1590)
Abraham Gijsbet Goertzen Rosa
(Abt 1550-After 1618)

 

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Maria Alerts Dircksen

Abraham Gijsbet Goertzen Rosa

  • Born: Abt 1550, Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands
  • Marriage: Maria Alerts Dircksen about 1579 in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands
  • Died: After 27 Feb 1618, Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands
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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Property, 11 May 1591. 385 On 11 May 1591, Aert Thonisen hands over to me, Ghijsbert Goirtsen, the property and rights that he and his wife Bertken have inherited in Herwijnen from his brothers-in-law Bruysten and Goosen Alartsen.

• Property, 11 Jul 1610. 386 The Lord of Oijen transferred a piece of yard and orchard in Herwijnen, called Beyerslant to me.

• Occupation, 1612, Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands. 387 I am listed as a Kerkmeester (church warden) at Herwijnen.

• Membership, 12 Dec 1612. Maria and I are listed in our church membership roster dated December 12, 1612.

• Notes of Interest. 327,388 A churchwarden is a lay member of the parish administrative council. Usually, a churchwarden had gained the respect of his co-parishioners thanks to his experience, his moral behaviour and his honesty.

2. Arien van Rijckhuijsen relates a story that was told to him by his mother, [Aaltje Govertsdr van Holt], who in turn had gotten it from her mother, etc.

The Bet

It involved two Roosas, brothers or cousins, he could not remember exactly.

One Roosa bet that the Prince who besieged 's Hertogenbosch in 1629 would not win and the other bet that, yes the Prince would succeed.

Because it was a bet between two, one would be the looser.

The bet was for sixteen hundred or seventeen hundred guilders. It was told that the winner was the father of Geurt Aeldertsz Roosa.

Eventually the amount had to be brought forward, and, after a part had been paid, the wife of the man who had won came to press the other wife. The other woman, disliking to be pressed went to the ancestor of the Lord of Varick and gets the rest, up to some hundreds. This money was borrowed on interest on a security of Abraham Gijsberts de Roos, that beautiful water meadow in front of the house of Ballegoyen, stretching up to Maerten Gerrits van Arendonck.

In those times the Roos's belonged to the richest of the village, or at least almost

3. In oral legend, one must take into account the possibility of errors.
Aaltje van Holt was born in 1632, her mother, Maria Aelderts [Roosa], probably about 1611 or so.

In 1629 there was, in fact, a siege of Hertogenbosch.

However, if Aeldert Gijsberts was the winner as is alleged, the bet must have taken place before 10 August 1614, as he is known to have died sometime within the preceding twelve months.

Who was Lord Varick? Possibly Reinhout van Dort of Varik who married at Herwijnen in 1626 to Maria van de Velde of Hellouw. It appears Anna Heijderwijck became a later wife:

From the Judicial Archives of Tuil it is learned that in 1626 Heymen Gijsbertsz was obligated to pay 25 guilders to Johan van den Poll in favor of the two under aged children of Walraven Heijderwijck. (Possibly the payment of interest.)

Later Anna Heijderwijck, then widow of Reijnier van Dort, summoned a security, held at the time (1666), by Jenneke, widow of Abraham Gijsbertsz.

In another transcript from the Hogh Bank of Tuil the succession of a certain property is described as being handed over from Arnt Thonissen to Gijsbert Goertzen to Heymen Gijsbertsz to Abraham Gijsbertsz.

The money, which had to be paid as a consequence of the bet, was borrowed by Heymen Gijsbertsz, on the security of a piece of land that was later handed over by him to his brother Abraham.

The money was actually borrowed from Walraven Heijderwijck (the interest (?) being paid to his children) . . . and that Anna was one of these children? To help collaborate these hypothetical conclusions, it would be interesting to learn if Anna was in fact the daughter of Walraven Heijderwijck and if one of her descendants became the Lord of Varik.

The weak point is the date. If the bet was made before 1614 indeed, the borrowing came late. The transcript says “eventually”, or “after a long time”. So, the explanation is plausible.

One last note: Geurt Aldertsz appears to have been a man of some wealth. He resided in the house “De Twee Paaden” (The Two Horses), a structure, which he reported built in 1651, with a tiled roof and a stain glass window displaying a coat-of-arms, a very unusual house at that time and place. Perhaps, at least some of this wealth came to him from the proceeds of “The Bet”.


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Abraham married Maria Alerts Dircksen, daughter of Alart Dircksen and Aricken, about 1579 in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands. (Maria Alerts Dircksen was born about 1550 in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands and died after 28 Apr 1615 in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands.)




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